Episode 39

More Room: Taking Up Space and the Books That Remind You How

Octavia Marie gets into what it actually means to take up space — not just in a room, but in the life you're building. Taking up space means letting your dreams have room, saying yes to what lights you up, and holding the line on your time and energy. And sometimes it means turning to stories when the world gets heavy.

Books Mentioned

  1. Kin by Tayari Jones
  2. Beautiful Broken Love by Shanora Williams
  3. One More Shot by Anise Starre
  4. One Week in Paradise by Anise Starre
  5. If I Don't Have You by Sareeta Domingo
  6. Behind the Scenes by Christina C Jones
  7. The Full Picture by Jessica Carmichael

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Transcript
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Hey, beautiful and welcome back to Culture Lit.

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I'm Octavia Marie, your host, and I want

to get into something with you today.

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I've been sitting with this question.

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Is the life I'm living actually big enough

for who I'm becoming, not the life I

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was handed or the one I built by default

while I was too busy to pay attention?

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The one I want, the one that has room in

it, room for creativity, room for joy,

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room for the things that light me up.

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Not just the things that keep the

lights on, because I think a lot

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of us are running lives that used

to fit and they don't anymore.

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You've grown, your vision has grown.

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Your sense of what you actually

deserve has grown and the

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container hasn't kept up.

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That feeling of tightness, that sense

that something is off and you can't quite

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name it, I don't think that's anxiety or

in gratitude or you asking for too much.

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I think that's your spirit saying,

I need more room than this.

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You are here to experience something

meaningful and alive, and if your life

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has stopped feeling that way, that's

information worth paying attention to.

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Taking up space isn't just about

how you move through a room or

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whether you speak up in a meeting.

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It's bigger than that.

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It's about the dreams you actually

let yourself pursue, not the ones

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you've talked yourself out of

because they felt too risky or

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too big, or not practical enough.

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It's about what you say yes to.

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It's about the boundaries you hold

around your time and your energy

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so that the things that matter most

don't get the leftover version of you.

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Your life deserves room to expand, and

you are allowed to create that room now.

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When the world is heavy and

y'all, it has been heavy lately,

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I do what I've always done.

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I go to stories, romance specifically

because romance has this way of

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holding the possibility of love and

joy and wonder, steady even when

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everything outside feels uncertain.

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A slow burn, a second chance.

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Two people finding their

way to each other, despite

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every reason they shouldn't.

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That is not naive.

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That is radical.

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The bravest thing we can do

sometimes is believe in love.

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Anyway, so today I'm sharing

what I've been reading.

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Two books we're going deep on and

a handful more I've been loving.

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Grab Your Tea.

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Let's Go Kin by Tari Jones.

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Friendship can save us.

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It can shape who we become,

and it can break our hearts in

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ways we weren't prepared for.

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Kin by Ari Jones is one of the most

honest explorations of all three of those

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things that I've read in a long time.

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The book center's, nicey and Annie,

two girls who have been close

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since they were so small that

people called them Cradle Friends.

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What binds them from the start

is a shared loss that neither

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of them fully has words for yet.

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Nic's mother is murdered by her father.

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Annie's mother simply leaves and

leaves Annie with her grandmother.

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Two different kinds of abandonment,

but the same hollowness.

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Underneath that shared wound is

where their friendship takes root.

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As they get older, the paths they

take couldn't look more different.

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Niecy gets to Spelman.

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Community wraps around her and

opens a door into a world of

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opportunity she'd only imagine.

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Annie heads to Tennessee chasing the

mother who never came back for her.

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It's uncertain and brave and a

little heartbreaking to watch.

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Physically, they move away from each

other, but the bond doesn't loosen.

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If anything, it deepens and watching both

of them try to figure out who they are

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in these new worlds without the cushion

of the other person nearby, that's

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where the book gets under your skin.

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What Tari Jones does so well is right

the messy, complicated, completely

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human texture of long friendship.

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Niecy and Annie aren't

always kind to each other.

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There's resentment in there.

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Grief.

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Anger, fear, the sadness that comes

from watching someone you love

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change in ways you didn't choose.

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But there's also a love running through

all of it that doesn't have a clean name.

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It's deeper than what

you can say out loud.

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Their friendship is chosen.

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Family built on years of shared

history and a mutual absence.

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They've both been trying to fill their

whole lives and watching them hold onto

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each other through all of it reminded me

of something I believe all the way down.

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Unconditional love isn't just romantic.

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Sometimes it looks like this.

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Two people who have seen each

other at the worst and the most

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lost and the most changed, and who

keep choosing each other anyway.

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My hope for all of us is that we get

to experience that kind of friendship

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where someone has known you long enough

to remember who you were before the

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world started asking things of you

and loves you all the way through.

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Anyway, Ken is that book.

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Read it Slowly.

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Beautiful Broken Love by Shenora Williams.

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Okay, this one, Davina Klein.

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Roberts lost her husband seven

months ago, and the way she's been

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coping is by pouring everything

she has into her beauty business.

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Working constantly, staying busy.

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Keeping the grief at arm's

length by staying in motion.

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A lot of us know that

particular survival strategy.

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Then she agrees to an endorsement deal

with Deek Bishop, an NBA player who is

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cocky and successful and very comfortable

with the life his stardom has bought him.

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She does not want to be attracted to him.

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She tells him flat out that she's

not looking for anything beyond

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a professional arrangement.

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He hears her.

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And then he pursues her anyway, not in an

aggressive way, but in the way of a man

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who has looked at someone and recognized

something he's never encountered before.

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Davina has this combination of

drive and beauty and genuine

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goodness that stops him cold.

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He can't let it go.

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What makes this book worth slowing

down for is that neither of these

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people comes to this love story.

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Whole Deke grew up with parental neglect.

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Domestic violence in his home.

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The loss of a sibling to suicide,

Davina is still raw with grief.

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Their ability to trust has been earned

back slowly over years, and the road to a

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happily ever after is not a straight line.

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They start a friends

with benefit situation.

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Knowing full well neither of them can

actually keep their heart separate, and

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that gap between what they tell themselves

and what they're actually feeling.

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That tension is where

the whole book lives.

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Shenora Williams is known for domestic

thrillers, and she brings that same

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precision to the emotional build here.

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Every scene earns what comes next.

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The characters feel true, their

hesitation, their missteps, their need

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for each other that keeps breaking

through the walls they've built.

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She doesn't shortcut the

grief or rush the tenderness.

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She lets it breathe and

there's a one-on-one basketball

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scene that is everything.

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If you wanna know exactly who these

two people are and what they mean

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to each other, that scene tells you.

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Beautiful.

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Broken love is a sports romance

that takes love seriously.

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All the highs, all the losses, all the

complicated work of letting someone in.

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I loved every page.

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All right, five more books that

belong on your radar right now.

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One more shot by Anis Star.

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Anis, star knows romance,

and one more shot is proof.

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Two years ago, photographer Elliot

Rain and Dane Clark had a near

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miss that she has been perfectly

happy to leave in the past.

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Then he shows up as the

best man at a wedding.

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She's been hired to shoot, and

that plan falls apart entirely.

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Elliot's first move is to

cancel the job and disappear.

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Dane has other ideas.

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She finally tells him the embarrassing

truth behind why their first attempt

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at a night together didn't go anywhere.

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He doesn't run.

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He leans in.

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He wants to try again.

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She's not sold.

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What I love about this one is the slow

shift from tension to a friendship

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that actually means something

before it becomes anything more.

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The question the whole book is

asking is whether these two can

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trust what they've built enough to

actually let it be real charming.

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Warm and genuinely fun to read One

Week In Paradise by Anisa Starr.

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Yes.

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Two Amy Starra books back to back.

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She earns it.

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Bailey Clark is an influencer whose

reputation has taken a serious hit,

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and when she gets an invitation to an

all expenses paid trip to a couple's

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only resort in Jamaica, she sees an

opportunity to rebuild one problem.

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She's single.

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Her brother's best friend Cash Reed

agrees to come along as her fake

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boyfriend, and this is a man who has

never exactly been her biggest fan.

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The arrangement is supposed to be simple,

seven days, some content, a free trip,

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everyone goes home, but Bailey has a past.

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She's been keeping quiet, and the closer

she and cash get to each other, the

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harder that becomes to hold onto the

fake starts feeling very real, very fast.

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The question becomes whether she'll let

that actually mean something or protect

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herself by keeping him at a distance.

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This one is spicy, fun, and genuinely

sweet underneath all the heat.

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If I don't have you by Sarita Domingo Ren

is an Afro-Brazilian filmmaker recovering

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from a romantic betrayal and doing

his best to stay focused on his work.

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Kayla is a black British artist and

journalist in New York for a string

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of interviews on re's latest film.

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The attraction between them

is immediate and undeniable.

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They give each other one night,

honest, intense, the kind of night that

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raises more questions than it answers.

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And in the morning, they both have

lives that don't have an obvious

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place for what they just felt.

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Sarta Domingo writes Desire and restraint

in equal measure, and this book has both.

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There are secrets between them and a

real tension around whether love at first

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sight or whatever this is, can survive

what neither of them has said yet.

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Sexy, sharp, and emotionally real.

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Behind the scenes by Christina C.

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Jones, I'm going to be straight with you.

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Christina C.

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Jones deserves her own episode.

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She belongs in every conversation about

black love, and I'm not exaggerating.

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This book is why.

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Logan is the only daughter of a

respected family with a long legacy.

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Pierre is the son of big screen

royalty and has spent his whole life

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either being compared to his father

or written off entirely on paper.

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Both of them look like exactly

what people have decided.

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They are, they're not.

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The love story between Logan and Pierre

starts in the most unexpected way.

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One night stand and then she shows

up at work the next day to discover

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her mystery man is her new client.

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The tension and awkwardness alone

had me hooked from the first chapter.

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Logan tries hard to keep it professional.

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The pull between them won't cooperate.

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Their chemistry is natural and grounded

in something real, not just physical

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attraction, but genuine recognition.

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Two people who actually see each other.

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Pierre's arc is one of my

favorite things about this book.

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He's a recovering alcoholic,

still facing the damage.

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His father left behind and watching

him grow with Logan beside him,

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not rescuing him, but believing

in him, felt honest and earned.

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This book is Tender and Adult

and beautifully written.

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Christina C.

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Jones does not miss the full

picture by Jessica Carmichael.

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Robin Carter is a first year

university student heading to Ghana

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for winter break, and for the first

time in 10 years going back to the

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country where she lost her mother.

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The trip is supposed to give

her answers about the parent.

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Her father has never been

willing to talk about.

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What she doesn't expect is Oay,

her grandmother's neighbor, a

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budding photographer, a dreamer who

wears his heart completely open.

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He is not the type she

would choose for herself.

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He's too much, too soft, too idealistic.

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She has a type on paper.

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Kelvin Williams, a charming pre-med

student visiting from her hometown

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who checks every rational box.

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But Ghana has a way of making

you honest with yourself.

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As Robin uncovers the truth about

her mother's past, something shifts

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in how she understands her own life,

what she's been chasing and what she's

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been running from the full picture is

a YA debut from Jessica Carmichael.

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And if you love Blu Baba, Lola or Jenny

Hahn, this one will feel like home, A

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coming of age story about family grief and

what it means to choose your own path over

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the one someone else laid out for you.

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So here's where I want to leave you.

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If your life has started to feel

like it's asking you to make yourself

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smaller, please pay attention to that.

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Not the version that says you're

ungrateful or unrealistic,

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or asking for too much.

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The quiet, steady version that says

there is more for you than this.

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Build the life that fits who you're

becoming, not who you were five years

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ago, not the version of you that

learned to stay small, to stay safe.

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The one you're growing into right now.

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Say yes to.

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What lights you up.

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Hold the boundary that

protects your peace.

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Pick up a book that reminds you

love is still worth believing in.

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And until next time, be soft.

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Be bold, be visible.

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